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"Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. WOE unto you that laugh now! for ye shall MOURN AND WEEP" Luke 6:25

Jesus promises all those who laugh now, that they will "mourn and weep."

That is, a conscious suffering...

"The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be WAILING and GNASHING OF TEETH. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear." Matthew 13:41-43

"Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. WOE unto you that laugh now! for ye shall MOURN AND WEEP" Luke 6:25

As Matthew 13:41-42 applies to ALL the unsaved of history, Luke 6:25 applies to all the unsaved of history as well...

The unsaved will MOURN AND WEEP.

Not "for ye shall be annihilated."

Mourning and weeping is the fate of the unsaved of history...

This is where the Camping-ites will say that Luke 6:25 are just those of history that are laughing at the May 21 warning!!!!!!

That the Bible is all about Harold Camping and his satanic books...

Sorry!!

Luke 6:25 and Matthew 13:41-42 along with many other verses like Revelation 14:11, Revelation 20:10 apply to Judas, Balaam, Cain, Caiaphas, and all the unsaved of history...

The Camping-ites are apostate and eternal torment awaits them...

Tom

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Very true!

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It's easy to come to the wrong conclusions, like the church weeds are so famous for. Such as claiming Salvation is John 3:16, and picking verses which APPEAR to indicate torture as God's Judgment process. But, as a church weed, they are spiritually dead, and have no ability to discern Biblical Truth.

Better add these verses to your idol worship. Some day the Lord may GIVE you understanding (Lk 24:45):

Isa 26:14 "They are]dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish."

Jere 51:57b "...and they shall sleep a perpetual sleep, and not wake, saith the King, whose name is the LORD of Hosts."

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WitnessoftheTruth wrote

It's easy to come to the wrong conclusions, like the church weeds are so famous for. Such as claiming Salvation is John 3:16, and picking verses which APPEAR to indicate torture as God's Judgment process. But, as a church weed, they are spiritually dead, and have no ability to discern Biblical Truth.

Better add these verses to your idol worship. Some day the Lord may GIVE you understanding (Lk 24:45):

Isa 26:14 "They are]dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish."

Jere 51:57b "...and they shall sleep a perpetual sleep, and not wake, saith the King, whose name is the LORD of Hosts."

until Judgment Day so describe both of these verses the state of the vessels of wrath who do not believe the true gospel as preached by Paul and all the apostles but the scripture says that all the enemies of Jerusalem, read those who need no repentance - the reprobate , shall awake -Isaiah 29:8 It shall even be as when an hungry [man] dreameth, and, behold, he eateth; but he awaketh, and his soul is empty: or as when a thirsty man dreameth, and, behold, he drinketh; but he awaketh, and, behold, [he is] faint, and his soul hath appetite: so shall the multitude of all the nations be, that fight against mount Zion.

Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to everlasting shame [and] contempt. (the Holy Bible in Modern English Destiny Publishers 1903)

To awake to everlasting shame means one has conscious existence everlastingly ...

Acts 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust. - the unjust SHALL BE RESURRECTED - shall awake to conscious experience of the wrath of God upon them which they are unconscious of presently , and so are deemed as those who sleep

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WitnessofLies said:

"Such as claiming Salvation is John 3:16, and picking verses which APPEAR to indicate torture as God's Judgment process. But, as a church weed, they are spiritually dead, and have no ability to discern Biblical Truth."

Whatever you say apostate....

"Weeping and mourning" is not a "parable"

And the Beatitudes in these verses apply to ALL!!

It is absurd to say that the Beatitudes are just referring to Harold Camping and his slaves.

Sorry apostate!

"Tribulation and ANGUISH, upon EVERY SOUL OF MAN that doeth EVIL, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile" Romans 2:9

A conscious anguish comes upon ALL the unsaved, and the unsaved will be consciously resurrected to endure that anguish.

This is where you will say these verses only apply to those who rejected your stupid youtube videos!!

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lame-o,

As a tare you testify for your father, satan:

Mat 13:27-28a "So the servants of the householder came and said unto Him, Sir, didst not thou sow Good Seed in Thy field? From whence then hath it tares? He said unto them, An enemy hath done this."

Thanks for your corrupt witness!! Your are failing the test.

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WitnessofLies wrote

It's easy to come to the wrong conclusions, like the church weeds are so famous for. Such as claiming Salvation is John 3:16, and picking verses which APPEAR to indicate torture as God's Judgment process. But, as a church weed, they are spiritually dead, and have no ability to discern Biblical Truth.

According to you - does this mean that Harold Camping was spiritually dead until late 2007 when he began teaching annihilationism?

I can also provide quotes where Mr Camping is teaching that the gospel is summed up in John 3:16.

Was Mr Camping spiritually dead when he wrote and said this?

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LAMBSFURY wrote

This is where you will say these verses only apply to those who rejected your stupid youtube videos!!

I have seen a few of his youtube videos.

He even has an entire video dedicated to Harold Camping.

I wonder what Mr Camping thinks of his long hair.

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As Judgment Day closes in, we need to consider the big questions!!

Like, my family being left behind to suffer and die?
My friends and neighbors being left behind to suffer and die?
My prospects for Salvation?
The loss of ALL my earthly possessions?
Will I be left behind to suffer and die?
Will the dogs, birds, and maggots be feasting on my corpse?
Will I survive the full 5 months of Judgment, just to be incinerated?
Is there a way of escape?

Nonsense!!

The big question is: "I wonder what Mr Camping thinks of his long hair."

Another priceless post, from those who claim to be in the know!!

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LAMBSFURY wrote

"Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. WOE unto you that laugh now! for ye shall MOURN AND WEEP" Luke 6:25

Jesus promises all those who laugh now, that they will "mourn and weep."

That is, a conscious suffering...

"The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be WAILING and GNASHING OF TEETH. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear." Matthew 13:41-43

"Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. WOE unto you that laugh now! for ye shall MOURN AND WEEP" Luke 6:25

As Matthew 13:41-42 applies to ALL the unsaved of history, Luke 6:25 applies to all the unsaved of history as well...

The unsaved will MOURN AND WEEP.

Not "for ye shall be annihilated."

Mourning and weeping is the fate of the unsaved of history...

This is where the Camping-ites will say that Luke 6:25 are just those of history that are laughing at the May 21 warning!!!!!!

That the Bible is all about Harold Camping and his satanic books...

Sorry!!

Luke 6:25 and Matthew 13:41-42 along with many other verses like Revelation 14:11, Revelation 20:10 apply to Judas, Balaam, Cain, Caiaphas, and all the unsaved of history...

The Camping-ites are apostate and eternal torment awaits them...

Tom

L-Fury, May God give you His Peace and His Love. Who knows? Maybe you are an Elect of God and may be saved in the last hour.

Here's a few verses you might want to meditate upon:

Ec 3:18 I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.

Ec 3:19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.

Ps 37:2 For they shall soon be cut down like the grass, and wither as the green herb.

Isa 26:14 They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish.

Eccl 9
3 This is an evil among all things that are done under the sun, that there is one event unto all: yea, also the heart of the sons of men is full of evil, and madness is in their heart while they live, and after that they go to the dead.
4 For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion.
5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.
7 Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works.
8 Let thy garments be always white; and let thy head lack no ointment.
9 Live joyfully with the wife whom thou lovest all the days of the life of thy vanity, which he hath given thee under the sun, all the days of thy vanity: for that is thy portion in this life, and in thy labour which thou takest under the sun.
10 Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.

Good luck! God bless.

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TB,

Why is it when a verse comes along, you ignore it?

Luke 6:25 says the unsaved will WEEP AND MOURN

These are the Beatitudes...

You need to define when this weeping and mourning takes place for ALL the unsaved..

Just as Romans 2:9 says a conscious anguish comes on ALL the unsaved...

Instead of facing these truths, you "divert" and still claim "the Bible teaches annihilation"

Sorry, it does not.

And when May 21 passes, then you will realize that annihilation is false.

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The weeping and mourning will be for ALL the church weeds who were counting their salvation 'chickens', before thy hatched. The church weeds tripping over themselves claiming how saved they are!!

Come May 21, 2011, the church weeds, some 2+ billion of them, will be left behind to be annihilated. Yes, after they drop to the ground and decompose, the Lord will cremate them ALL, on Oct 21, 2011. ALL GONE. No trace the 6,750,000,000 people ever existed.

You will be glad the correct Judgment plan is annihilation. I would hate to see you suffer for eternity. Even though you wish that upon everyone else. The mind of the spiritually dead is something that Truth cannot overcome. Pray for the Lord to revive you in the 300 days remaining.

@TrueBeliever, Biblical Truth cannot be heard on this forum. Only idol worship is glorified.

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WitnessofLies said:

"Come May 21, 2011, the church weeds, some 2+ billion of them, will be left behind to be annihilated"

Luke 6:25 mentions nothing about annihilation!!

Rev 14:11, Rev 20:10, Romans 2:9, Matthew 13:42 mention nothing about annihilation!!

This is where you will say these verses don't apply to Judas, but only apply to those people who rejected your stupid Camping weed youtube videos!!

Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 53

WitnessofLies wrote

The weeping and mourning will be for ALL the church weeds who were counting their salvation 'chickens', before thy hatched. The church weeds tripping over themselves claiming how saved they are!!

Come May 21, 2011, the church weeds, some 2+ billion of them, will be left behind to be annihilated.

Are you forgetting that Mr Camping will be in church today preaching from the pulpit? Wink

In fact, he never left the church, he just stopped sprinkling little babies and pretending that it was baptism.

Isn't his kingdom hall still a state registered church?

"Well" you may say "Mr Camping is not an elder or a deacon", but the funny thing is he and his robots STILL play the role of the elders and deacons. There is STILL leadership. and Camping is STILL the leader in HIS CHURCH.

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Witness of Lies - you still haven't answered my question. Here it is again.

WitnessofLies wrote

It's easy to come to the wrong conclusions, like the church weeds are so famous for. Such as claiming Salvation is John 3:16, and picking verses which APPEAR to indicate torture as God's Judgment process. But, as a church weed, they are spiritually dead, and have no ability to discern Biblical Truth.

According to you - does this mean that Harold Camping was spiritually dead until late 2007 when he began teaching annihilationism?

I can also provide quotes where Mr Camping is teaching that the gospel is summed up in John 3:16.

Was Mr Camping spiritually dead when he wrote and said this?